Sure.

http://theowanne.com/knowledge/tip-opening-charts

 

A Yamaha 3C.

 

:dazed: Where's the 'rimshot' smilie ???:mrgreen:

 

, seriously, 4C is a rather small tip already and Yamaha doesn’t make a smaller one.

Selmer does make a B* which would be smaller but they are rather rare. Isn’t it better to compensate by using a different reed rather than going to such extreme as to find the closest mouthpiece on earth?

Alternatively look for one of those old mouthpieces form the ’20 or ’30 that most people find unplayable because they are too closed and play one of those.

 

, seriously, 4C is a rather small tip already and Yamaha doesn't make a smaller one.

Yamaha actually does make a 3C, just google it. It is readily available

 

thanks, I thought it was a joke.........

 

0.067"

If you need something to keep the air from moving through the horn, you could try a cork. :twisted:

What reeds are you using? Why the need to go even smaller?

 

:mrgreen::mrgreen:

 

There's the Rousseau 2C. 2C stands for 'too close'.

 

I have a Yamaha 3C in both the Tenor and Alto sax. I also have a nice Hard Rubber MP, LeBlanc (Woodwind) B4 mouthpiece that I use a 2 or 2.5 synthetic on it and really like the warm sound. Funny how that MP sounds very different from the Yamaha MPs. Even thinking of a Otto Link 4 that I see for about 89.00 but not sure what the tip opening is. It would not take much, ronish, for someone to merely sand down the face so that the face is closer. Personally I like close mouthpieces, but as a beginner, I am sure this "concept" will change.

 

You would need railway sleeper on anything smaller than a 4C.

 

LOL :laughing:

 

As far as voume of sound the Yamaha 3C is just as loud as my 4C and in alto it is just as loud as the Bari Esprit MP I have as well. They are just a tiny bit easier to blow.

 

My only experience with a 4C (came with a friend's YTS62) was not to be able to get a sound from it.
Tip opening far too closed......this with a No. 3 reed.

 

I get plenty of sound from a Yamaha 3C and 4C I use a 1.5, 2, and 2.5 Rico reed, as well as Fibracell synthetic reeds 2.0 -2.5. Reed positions is everything on these mouthpieces. Millions are sold so they are able to be played, and played well.

 

All that matters is that you are happy with it....it's your mouthpiece.
I require something else....almost anything else. :bluewink:

 

Gibbs: I agree even though I personally prefer more open tips. But that doesn't mean someone else can't get along fine with closer tips. DAVE

 

I'm confused. I've only been playing a few months, and I'm playing on a Yamaha 4c with vandoren 2.0 reeds. Why do the reeds seem so hard to me on such a closed mouthpiece? How on earth would anyone be able to use harder reeds on an even more open mouthpiece. I must be a total wimp.

 

1. I had a Conn Steelay that was ancient and I measured it at .057-ish (something measurably under .06).

2. Number 2 reeds should be soft enough, but you can try 1.5.

3. Do you have a teacher? The difficulty you have may be from not placing the reed and ligature on the mpc correctly. Or the mpc upside down for all folks on the internet know. Getting a tutor could solve everything.

4. If you are just starting out, the 4C should work fine. I would not seek a closer tip opening if I were you.

 

Try Rico 2.0 reeds or even 1.5 reeds and see how you go. Plenty to choose from on Amazon.com One of the reeds I play the most with, and I am a beginner, is the Fibracell 2.0 or 2.5 reed. I like it because I can get nice deep low notes on it and also play an altisimo notes on it as well. And, I don't need to worry about wetting it. I wear dentures and so putting it in my mouth to wet does not work. Also I just keep it attached to my Otto Link 4.0 Mouthpiece with the Rovner ligature and it's quick to play during break time at work.

 

My initial reaction would be that maybe your reeds are too soft. With that small of a tip I wouldn't think that soft of a reed would have room to vibrate to create sound.

 

I apologize, I seem to have taken over this thread. I am playing an Alto with a 4c. Tonight I received a box of Rico royal 2.5s and a box of vandoren 1.5s. I can report that two from each box are immediately playable for me without modifications. We'll see if thay are really too soft and get mushy in a couple weeks, but so far I am quite happy with them. The softest was a vandoren, but the other vandoren and both Rico royals seem about the same strength. The vandoeen 2.0s I am trying to break in still seem way too hard. -- jim